BMI vs FFMI

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  1. Tac

    Tac Old Fart

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    BMI

    Every time I go anywhere near a doctor, get a medical (Commercial License), or do a "Pit Stop" (work related health check).... they ramble on about my Body Mass Index (BMI) being too high.... "Your BMI is 40... This puts you in the very severely obese or Morbidly Obese Category. You need to lose weight".

    Now, I am the first to agree that I carry a bit 'extra' but "Morbidly Obese"?

    FFMI

    I got sick of being told about my BMI, so I did some research and found some info on 'Fat Free Mass Index' (FFMI). "BMI for Bodybuilders".

    Ah.... this is more like, but....

    I took a very scientific/mathematical approach (installed an app) and calculated my FFMI. Now, I will say upfront that I am not exactly sure how much body fat I am carrying, but using a variety of methods (electronic scales, tape measure, calipers and my favorite: "Eyeballing the mirror"), I came to the ballpark figure of 35% body fat.

    And this is where the but comes in...

    According to a couple of different apps, my FFMI is 26.18 The information in the app then tells me this is the 'anabol' range (not reachable by natural means)... ie: Must be on the juice. Apparently some body building comps do not permit people with an FFMI of 25+ to enter. I have no plans to enter any comps but still.

    I am not and never have taken any steroids.

    So, according to the 'experts', I am either morbidly obese, or on steroids... (or both?). Really?

    I prefer to think more along the lines of "genetically gifted"... :icecream:

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. chrismwpcs

    chrismwpcs Make it take it.

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    Morbidly steroidal! ;)

    Those BMI thresholds are laughable. At the moment I am 25.7 and that is drifting into the over weight category. Um yea I am not carrying much fat but apparently I am overweight.
     
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  4. Eidolon

    Eidolon Bit Fatty

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    All those indexes are based on averages. Like when you get into a lift - can carry 11 people or 750kg :D

    Get a dexa scan done and laminate the results. I shove it in every GP's face who suggests I'm about to croak because my BMI is off their charts.
     
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  5. Tac

    Tac Old Fart

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    I don't think its fat in your case [MENTION=8952]chrismwpcs[/MENTION]

    It must be the sheer 'weight' of confidence and charm. :euro:
     
  6. Tac

    Tac Old Fart

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    Yeah, [MENTION=8161]Eidolon[/MENTION] I plan to get a dexa at some point, but I live out in the sticks and I'm not going to drive 3 hours just to have someone tell me I'm not obese.

    :eat2:
     
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  7. MRSA

    MRSA $'+--_"'van¤©®damme_@$§ Staff Member

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    Mate you bench 150kg *from what iv seen .. comfortably

    Just keep throwing plates around eating big and remain strongAF

    The rest is just namby Pamby BS
     
  8. chrismwpcs

    chrismwpcs Make it take it.

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    LOL I will buy that! :crigon_01:
     
  9. Tac

    Tac Old Fart

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    Yeah, [MENTION=2376]MRSA[/MENTION], I know its BS. But thats why I came here, cause there are some big guys who understand what I'm talking about..... :showoff:

    Last time I visited the Doc, he started about my weight again, just looking at the scales, not at the bigger picture...

    Somehow we got into a discussion (debate) about strength and fitness and I said something about pushups. He said I wouldn't be able to do any pushups because of my size and age. (I was 130KG at the time).....

    Long story short... I got down and did some...

    He stopped me at 40 and said: "you've made your point"... LOL.

    :smoke:

    I spoke to him on the phone a week later, and he actually said: "you have almost inspired me to do some exercise".... :)
     
  10. Meatbag

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    ^^ haha always fun proving your point.

    Did a similar thing at a medical for a job I was going for. Did the weigh in and told me I needed to lose weight. Then did the full muscoskeletel exam where you have to do as many push ups in a minute, plank as long as you can, and a bunch of other basic things. Got the top possible score in ever one of them. It was just after going to the gym too for a leg day session.

    I ignore BMI's completely as they have way too many variables not taken in to account.
     
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  11. Eris

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    Show us a pic of yourself and we'll tell you if you're a fat cunt or not
     
  12. Tac

    Tac Old Fart

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    Gotta love the look on the face of these scrawny athletic/fitness types (work health check) when they realize some of us bigger guys actually know how to exercise... :)
     
  13. Tac

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    Got photos over on my log... but here you go (never said I was "skinny")

    [​IMG]
     
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    flow baked beans Connoisseur

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    It's all a load of shit. Tools for skinny fucks to make themselves look bigger..
     
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    hard to tell from that pic but really at your age the concern falls more on waist line measure.

    this is the area where visceral fat builds and yeah even if you bench 150kg if you have a fat gut on you your risk for a number of diseases increases drastically.

    Now from what i can see there it doesn't look like an issue for you and the doctor is just looking at numbers while ignoring the whole picture.

    also regarding your FFMI you could skip all the guess work and just get a dexa scan, not 100% reliable but a good base for you to go off regarding your own health focus.
     
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    Riley Well-Known Member

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    I think FFMI and natural limits might be more applicable at lower bodyfat levels, if you could diet down to sub 10% bodyfat and maintain that FFMI then you would have a better idea of if you are carrying a "steroid-like" level of FFM.
     
  17. grubeface

    grubeface Reborn AGJ Supporter

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    waist to hip ratio much better "Healthy" guide. and then there is always......wait for it.......





    The dreaded Mirror.



    Fuk bulk population averages, I use freak averages I fit in much better.



    ps or you can get assessed at the JW Academy for the Master Races.
     
  18. Eidolon

    Eidolon Bit Fatty

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    Aren't we too short for that? :|
     
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    grubeface Reborn AGJ Supporter

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    and our legs to small just means we pay a bigger fee ;)


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    i have more time to waste than you
     

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