First cycle- basic info

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  1. Lhb

    Lhb New Member

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    31 yr old 6”2 around 115 kgs

    looking at doing my first cycle and trying to keep it as simple as possible to see how my body responds. I have been trying do as much research as possible but there are so many conflicting views and it’s hard for noob to keep up sometimes.

    I want to do a test-e only cycle -500 pw for 12 weeks.

    Being my first cycle is it necessary (generally, I know every one is different) to run a pct with hcg or would Nolva only pct be sufficient enough. Also is an AI necessary considering I’m only doing the 1 compound?

    might be a silly question to some but hoping to get some opinions. Appreciate any help
     
  2. blindbodybuilder

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    Hey buddy welcome to the board, i'll give you my opinion and hopefully some more experienced members will chime is, my knowledge is pretty decent if i do say so myself though.

    Firstly your approach of a test only cycle is a smart way to start your journey with ped's.

    500mg/wk is a solid place to start, regarding an AI i would most definitely have some on hand at the very least, as you said everyone is different and you won't know how badly you will aromitize until you actually run your test.

    As a general rule the more body fat you are holding the more aromotase you will have as the enzyme resides in fat, it still will vary from one person to another but the leaner you are the more chance you will have of getting away without using an AI, however though i would definitely have some on hand before starting your cycle, if you don't need to run it then that's a bonus but if you start getting that tingle in your nipples and you don't have anything on hand you'll likely regret it, aromasin/exemestane is pretty much the number one choice for most people, arimidex is the second choice, i always thought aromasin was the best, for me it allowed a margin of error, gave me a chance to dial in the correct dose without crushing my e levels and did a perfect job of controlling e side effects.

    For pct, if you do 12 weeks of enanthate remember your levels will still be way above natural for at least 2 weeks after you last shot probably 3 weeks which actually means you will be shut down for 14-15 weeks, again some people recover quicker and easier than others and you won't know how you will recover until you try it but if it were me i would be getting some hcg for sure, if you don't recover well you will lose a massive chunk of those big first cycle gains.

    i don't reckon i would use the hcg during my cycle i reckon i would just use say 5000iu to kick start pct and then continue with the nolva.

    Hopefully some of the more experienced blokes can give an opinion on how they would use the hcg, i don't know if it would be necessary to run the hcg during the cycle when doing a test only run but i would definitely have some for the end of the cycle.

    Long story short man, sounds like you are approaching this intelligently, i would continue that approach mate and not take any chances with aromatization and always do the most comprehensive pct you can, there's nothing worse than makeing big gains and then takeing ages to recover and losing much of it.

    Hope this helps mate.
     
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  3. Lhb

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    Thanks mate that was a huge help. Really appreciate the advise. I will definately get some Aromasin based off your advice.

    Been thinking about it for a long time but the risk of permanent sides Has always put me off. While I’m not lean I don’t have Excessive body fat by any stretch, so I’m not too sure how I will go.

    i just want to keep it as simple as I can for the first time then take a solid break to assess how my body reacts to it, then add another compound for my second cycle
     
  4. adz2332

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    silly question
    If i have a 10ml vial of test cypionate 250 and want to run 10 weeks of 500mg per week split into 2 250mg shots.
    i would use 1ml on say monday and 1ml on thursday. that equals 500mgs a week?
    and then i would need 2 10ml vials for the course?

    maths has never been my strong suit
     
  5. Tommo2398

    Tommo2398 Well-Known Member

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    Always get an extra vile is something I would recommend. If you somehow spill it you don’t have to worry about ordering more and possibly ruining your cycle
     
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    cycle and plan looks good my only advice would be based on your stats and not seeing any pics is possibly try diet down abit before starting your cycle
     
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  7. Lhb

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    Thanks mate appreciate the advice.
    I’ve been pinning on tues and fri? Is it a big issue if one time I pin on a Saturday because I missed Friday? Hopefully it wouldn’t cause a huge wave in my levels?
     
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    nah it’s fine, won’t make a difference
     
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    Cheers mate. Appreciate the feedback around here since I’ve joined
     
  10. RickHarley

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    Looks nice. I also recommend use crazy bulk testo max.
     
  11. blindbodybuilder

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    @Lhb, how is the cycle progressing mate?

    I took a look at that testo max old mate suggested, it is a natural test booster that has all the ingredients you would expect in a test booster, it does seem to have some good reviews on the web, so i guess you could think about using it after your pct, it is pretty pricey though, 80$ for a one month supply.

    also i don't know exactly what rick harley's go is but he seems to always be pushing one product or another.
     
  12. RickHarley

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  13. blindbodybuilder

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    lol....i'll tell you what seems interesting, the way you keep quoting your own posts as if you are having a conversation with yourself....lol
     

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