Guys who blast and cruise and never come off...any health issues?

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  1. deadlift

    deadlift Well-Known Member

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    Haven't seen a recent blast and cruise thread for awhile
    Just wanted to see everyones latest update on the subject

    How long do use stay on for?
    Are you on TRT?
    Health issues when blasting?

    Cheers
     
  2. VanMan

    VanMan Secret Squirrel

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    On 12-20 weeks. Off 6-8 weeks on trt for a number of years. 4-6 blood tests a year. High bp and a sore nobb is the only dramas i have.
     
  3. theoak*

    theoak* Active Member

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    Similar to grubeface, only thing was high bp, been a good 8years since I've had a decent sleep without waking up multiple times a night. Had high cholesterol but eating has improved year round not just portions of the year.
     
  4. BTM

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    My mate's doctor actually told him to stay on gear rather than going on and off as he felt it'd be better for his body. First time I've heard that, but an interesting idea nonetheless.

    I'm considering a 6 week cruise after this 10 weeks, followed by another 10 week blast, but weighing that up against just getting off for 10 weeks and starting again.
     
  5. Reddust

    Reddust Undercover Mod AGJ Supporter

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    I dont believe in cruise and blast.
    I would prefer to just use a consistent, although lower dose for the whole time eg: instead of using 500mg per week blast and 250mg cruise, use 350 - 400 for the whole time
    Benefits are lower sides, slower gains resembling a more natural state, consistent hormone levels as opposed to a big spike and because your gains are more steady i personally believe they would be more easily maintained.

    The above post is only my opinion and i have no science or studies to back it up. I have also never tested the opinion
     
  6. Ninja87

    Ninja87 Well-Known Member

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    Just did a big post then pressed back and lost it lol. Will update in a minute.
     
  7. T-FL3X

    T-FL3X Traininsaneorremainthesam

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    6-10 weeks cruise 12-20 blast
    Liver issues but that's due to orals.
    Cholesterol fine
    Bp fine
     
  8. Ninja87

    Ninja87 Well-Known Member

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    I cruised on 500mg test for over a year. No side effects at all , bloods all good my ldl hdl was better then my mates who doesn;t use gear. Prostate enlargement covered with finasteride as well as hairloss. Occasionally took nolva. Easy but I sort of grew a tolerance and the effects weren't as good. Still bigger then normal but you couldn't tell I was on. I started gear way to early and I didn't really have a base to begin with so without gear I am ruined.

    I then tempt fate with Tren and I was like wtf. People knew I was on gear and I was just using a small dose. Mental side of tren are REAL , I said things I would normally never say , became so extroverted and ended up getting sacked cause I just said what I feel I was like wtf are they gonna do anyway? Im jacked and feel like god on Tren lol.

    Been on tren for like 10 months , sides I have experienced -

    1- Lipids ruined , my cholesterol was out of whack just by using tren and doctor gave me lipitor lol. I used fish oil and it still didn't help.
    2- I sweat Like a dog. I mean I perspire like I ran a marathon and using pre workouts just made it worse. Fan on me when I sleep every single night even winter.
    3- Got gyno by using reccys with tren. now kept in check with caber and occasionally arimidex
    4. Acne - Controlled with clearasil , good hygeine and solarium
    5. Feeling like a king and getting in shit - controlled by taking a moment. Ran a guy off the road cause he was tailgating me. Nearly ended up in a crazy fight. Stupid as hell mistake.
    6.High bp , take BP med which is fine but heart rate and anxiety (shaking in public is there running @125mg EOD)
    7. Mood swings - I have great days then depressive days. Don't know if thats from tren or the caber cause that effects dopamine. Sucks ass
    8. Initally lose appetite - Even now I don;t eat good. Have a tonne of shakes and my diet is rubbish hence why you use tren , still gain and don't lose weight regardless of diet.
    9. Tren cough - Get this couple times a week , sweating , red face , dizzy , cough. Not nice
    10. Tren has led me take more risks then I would normally.
    11. Sleeping sometimes takes a long time but once you are there it is good. I think tren stimulates the CNS slightly hence anxiety and sleeping issues. Sucks but you can deal with it

    Postive effects -

    Tren does everything

    1. vascularity
    2. muscle so full
    3. pump is crazy
    4. strength increase so quick , 2 weeks after hernia op and using tren I was jacked again
    5. Confidence is unreal
    6. shuffles nutrients amazingly. Everything you eat get shuffled into them so satisfying
    7. People know you are on gear with it
    8. Put all the other sterids together and I think Tren destroys them all. Not sure about GH and that stuff.

    Bang for buck tren wins

    All in all once you use tren nothing else compares. Forget masteron , test etc I respect and think test is so safe but no where near as effective as Tren. Going back on test owuld be like I was off cycle. Test made me feel healthy but I was underwhemled with it after using all the esters , once you use tren you then use a REAL steroid but real side effects to.

    I regret using gear so early. Anyway at my age 26 my body can probably handle it. I will stop one day. Just not in the near future.
     
  9. Ninja87

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    Do you switch compounds?

    I also had a echo cardio gram for a unrelated issue while on test. All fine no abnormal growth. Couldn't believe it. Only had high BP since tren , doctor said tren for the horse or cattle....I proceed to start bucking like a horse and doing mating sounds like Black Caviar and mooing while walking around his office like a chimp and said yeah so what? He said in broken english (that is bad side effect)

    Then he proceeded to give me a script for caber :)
     
  10. str8rippinau

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    10 months on tren thats full on. 500mg for a year as well...im guessing the body would adapt to all of this and it would just become a waste of money?
     
  11. Ninja87

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    My dose is relatively low. Tolerance for all drugs probably occurs after a while. A lot of people cruise or bridge it is more common then people think. I wouldn't recomend cruising on tren as I said my lipids are quite bad but I will get a blood test in a few weeks or so and see what happens and take it from there.

    I had a question I posted in Anabolic Q and A regarding statins and there effect on muscle growth. You don't think someone like chestbrah cruises? his mates?
     
  12. str8rippinau

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    Its so hard to say. Some would some wouldnt.

    Gear isnt everything. People that train hard know it. One of my mates is natural and he looks 100 times better than me. But, he has been training for 6 years and i have been training for a little over 2.5 years. Its just consistency over years and hard work. Anyone with an awesome physique that i have spoken to, have always been training for years and years.

    In saying that i have no doubt a lot of those guys dont come off, but id say a lot of them do as well.
     
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  13. Ninja87

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    I agree. Takes years to build strength and a good physique , doesn't happen overnight and if you are consistant from young and get it drilled into you (like the american kids do) you will be extremely strong , muscular when you get into your early 20's. Was watching NCAA wrestling the other day and them guys are ripped and strong as hell.

    Gear isn't everything I feel diet is the main. Gear makes it easier and the people that had no base to begin with and saw the results in a quick space of time tend to get addicted and feel they can't gain without the use of gear.

    The amount of progress a young teen can do under the guidance of a elder person who is knowledgeable regarding diet and training is immense. Tried to help a young nephew of mine and told him to get protein powder and creatine which is all you need at that age. He hated the taste of protein he only liked muscle milk (who doesn't) lol so that immediately put him off the thing.

    It ain't for everyone.
     
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  14. daninho777

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    Always been interested in hearing from guys that blast and cruise. What strategies do you guys use to continue making gains? change compounds, esters, doses etc every blast? and do gains eventually stop or slow way the hell down because your body has gotten used to the gear or does the cruising on lower test take care of that?

    Always been interested in hearing what the differences in gains would be between traditional cycling and blasting cruising. My guess would be that they are around the same because of the muscle loss of coming off and that on blasting and crusing your body gets used to it?
     
  15. Paz9

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    but i eat alot and i dont get bigger without roids cuz.
     
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  16. Ninja87

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    cuz up the sus jab it 2 mls everyday before training and get some dbols thats what arnold used. The mentality of young people (well that train where I do) is pretty bad. You often hear what they take and I don't know if they talk intentionally loud so people hear them so they think they are tough but you can hear clearly what they are saying.

    I also get a manlet that comes in once a week with a circle band aid on delt , that means get out of his way and give up the equipment he means business.
     
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  17. harmankardon1

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    Got a few of these guys around. Always the same sort, have little idea what they're doing, loose all their 'gains' (water) when they come off and look barely different then your average natty guy (except for the 4 litres of water weight).
     
  18. zDy

    zDy SquirtleSquad AGJ Premium Supporter

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    I think blasting and cruising is healthier for you than the rollercoaster ride of going on and off.

    Doesnt necessarily have to be upping doses. Can just swap compounds in n out.

    As for how long to cruise for. I'd say if you got shitty blood results. Go blast when you're good again. Else go by feel. Don't wanna blast if you're in a shit mindset and won't give it your all.

    When to cruise. I'd say when you're plateaued or just arent feeling it anymore. I don't think there's a point to setting a particular time frame.

    Could plan to blast for 12 weeks. 8 weeks in, you dont feel your best for some time. Back off and cruise til you feel better.
     
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  19. JSB

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    Blasting and cruising only works if you actually cruise, and not just keep blasting harder for more gains, instead of doing pct just sit on 150-200mg test a week. You wont lose any gains and it means the next blast is going to work just like getting back on after pct (only you havent lost any weight)
     
  20. Plisk

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    Depends I guess. Health is very subjective.

    Androgens can improve several aspects of health while greatly impacting others. My only problem with the blast and cruise style is most people tell themselves the amount of testosterone they are using on cruises is "what TRT guys do" so it must be healthy - which is wrong of course, no endo in his right mind would give you 250mg/week because its like 2-3 times above what the top 1% of the male range would produce in a week.

    God I wish we could burn these fucking stigmas towards steroids in science and medicine because then we could actually get revealing human studies on some of these synthetic compounds, and we might actually find a balance point where all your athletic/body image goals can be attained at a greater rate without compromising your health, just simply by examining and comparing how exactly certain steroids work and what tissues they are more prevalent in.

    for example, we know trenbolone seems to act as very powerful androgen - yet it has very little effect in the prostate compared to testosterone/DHT. On the other hand, myself and many others have experienced harsh acne from trenbolone which would suggest its potentiated in the skin quite a bit.
     
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