Partner needs help

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  1. still tryin

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    Ok so got my partner into the gym. She was losing weight drastically due to bad eating habits and stress. Got her healthy and in shape. Then focused on a 'healthy diet' on my philosophy of 4/5 meals a day every 3/4 hrs and strength training ie more compound movements 4 sets 6-8 rep stuff. She built good muscle but also put on weight.
    Then tried reducing meals and restricting carbs after her 4pm pre workout snack. Weight didn't drop at all. Then 2 weeks off after Xmas we've replaced breakfast meal with a shake and shed diet is as posted so no carbs after lunch except on leg day or back day.
    I've changed her program in gym to include more 10-12 reps shorter rest periods and some all over movement exersizes like kettle bell swings curl/press squat/press and also added interval cardio.
    2 weeks in and she's put on 2kgs and it's not fat. The waistline worse now than before.
    Is it too soon, is it the weeks off just coming thru now or do I think she may be one of those who responds better to carbs and requires them???

    7:30- shake with berries acetyl carnitine and fat burner tablets
    10:30- muesli
    1:30- tuna on cakes/sushi/chicken
    4:30- fruit and shake
    7:30 - salmon/chicken/steak n salad

    You can have this diet twice a week but only on leg day or back day

    7:30- eggs on toast -fat burner tablets
    10:30- muesli
    1:30-tuna on cakes/sushi/chicken
    4:30- fruit n shake(acetyl carnitine)
    7:30- whatever u want.
     
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  3. StrungOut

    StrungOut Well-Known Member

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    Why are you so certain it isn't fat ?
    I understand you are saying her waistline is worse now, meaning for arguments sake has gone from 40cm to 50cm?
    Rather than cutting carbs why not lower cals or up activity eg cardio. The original deficit may have been fine but then say she has dropped 10kgs. Her TDEE would have changed so the once -500cal for example won't still be that number.

    Maybe I am just misinterpreting this wrong
     
  4. still tryin

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    She hasn't dropped any weight. She's put on 2kgs and the abs are gone and the handful of fat doesn't require skin folds
     
  5. Muse

    Muse Baby Maker

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    She's eating ALL THE THINGS :eat2:

    In secret.
    lol
     
  6. flexski

    flexski Well-Known Member

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    What is the question here?
     
  7. still tryin

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    What are we doing wrong? Is the question
     
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    Dunno about that one
     
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    flexski Well-Known Member

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    I'm with [MENTION=2671]Muse[/MENTION] on this one. Ya Mrs is cheating behind your back with a pack of Tim Tams.
     
  10. hardcore

    hardcore Well-Known Member AGJ Supporter

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    Is she bloated?
     
  11. still tryin

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    No she doesn't appear to b. u can also notice it around bum and legs. I think it's the time off still and going to have to give it more than 2 weeks
     
  12. hardcore

    hardcore Well-Known Member AGJ Supporter

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    eh


    You haven't mentioned calorie intake (or macro split) which is a crucial factor. im sure youve worked all this out but even the perfect macronutrient ratio is ineffective if your calorie intake is too high or low.

    Tbh i dont particularly like the diet, too many shakes, too much hidden sugar, not enough real food haha but just my thoughs lol no offense

    is it possible the body's storing? and what are her energy levels like and hence her training? Good fats are important for women ito fat loss and energy levels?

    her body type is importsnt btw, in determining her tolerance for carbs

    no real help i know but just things to think about.

    or just wait a few weeks :laugh2::yeah:
     
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  13. hardcore

    hardcore Well-Known Member AGJ Supporter

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    actually jj has a point. i assumed you were saying she's gaining weight as in fat. if she isn't (according to you ), whats the problem if she's gaining muscle ( which is actually impossible imo on that diet)?
     
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    Is she pregnant ?
     
  15. still tryin

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    Hardcore- think ur on the money with actual calorie intake. At this stage I don't think she's just eating too many. It's just she has been reducing them and reduced her carbs and instead of losing weight she's putting it on- which is why I'm seeking help.
    Jj scratching your head cause we had her going good. She did put weight on and body scan told her more muscle than fat. She was burning fat and toning nicely. But as soo. As we starting watching her diet and 'cleaning' it up it's had adverse effect.

    I don't think it's bloated as it's been progressive. I had her drinking lots of water cause works for me so thought water retention but cutting that didn't help.

    No I think the best thing is to persevere for cpl of weeks. Could still be the Xmas break catching up. It's just that when we got back from break and started gym and diet she was 63.5 2 weeks in and 66.

    Pregnant now that would defy the odds. Would call the baby Jesus.

    Asking a solid question now. What 'real' foods would I add. Ps the tuna on cakes are rice cakes and not the flavoured one.

    She gets her healthy fats from tuna. Avocado in salads and cooks in peanut or olive oil

    And her energy levels are good and she feels 'about right' what I mean by that is before Xmas she was eating similar to me but smaller portions. She was having eggs on toast for breakfast and having a meal instead of shake and fruit for Arco tea. But then she just felt full and bloated all the time. As you can now tell we've reduced her calories significantly but weight has gone on around tummy but and legs
     
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    ABoB Come back mode

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    Given Jesus was an immaculate conception, you're implying that you're not sleeping with your girlfriend...there's the problem, add some bedroom cardio and you'll both drop some kgs
     
  17. flexski

    flexski Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like hormones are at play here.
     
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  18. still tryin

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    AB- ex wife actually. Gym partner and friend these days. The odd shag keeps the droughts away but double contraception would b close to immaculate
    Hmmm wonder if the type of contraception pill would affect weight loss.

    Flexski- that's my only answer at the moment. I get that I might not have calories spot on but just the drop since last program and increase in cardio and intensity should've had some weight loss not gain. Pfft women
     
  19. hardcore

    hardcore Well-Known Member AGJ Supporter

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    real foods for me dont include shakes. shakes also bloat. i also think the hidden sugars in her diet should be looked at anyway (ie. protein powder depending on brand, muesli, fruit etc, salt in tuna is also not ideal (wash tuna first), plus the hidden crap in rice cakes (sorry mate i compete so when i talk 'clean' im a bit anal).

    real food to me are bb staples like chicken sweet potatoes brown rice etc

    And up to 6lt of water a day
     
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    Eidolon Bit Fatty

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    What are those fat burner tablets? Proper clen/yoh/DNP, or just supp store stuff?
     
  21. still tryin

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    Yep going to stick with shake as its bulk nutrients WPI with water and raspberries (which give 12grm carbs of which 5grm r sugar)
    Muesli is gone.
    Tuna is in springwater. Rice cake was just something for her to eat it with trying to get her off bread. I understand I'm a clean converted. I wouldn't touch rice cakes. I eat it straight out of can. But this is a female. Converting them is a slow process
    She is eating better her lunch is normally chicken and salad anyway

    My staples are chicken, steak, rice n sweet potato but was just trying to reduce her carbs so she only has one or two meals with good serve of carbs. Maybe I'll swap fruit with a small sweet potato salad.

    I'll keep her off the scales for a week (and remove all the treats) and get back to ya
     
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