I'm not gonna lie, I will run it again and the results were out of this world, and I am well aware of it's effects and how it correlates to energy systems/ATP etal. Like I said in numerous other threads, respect the compound, run a conservative dose with correct ancillaries and amazing things will happen. When you get greedy, things become unstuck. :d_sunny: I am not advocating the use of Dinitrophenol. Merely educating others.